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Stereotyping Loki’s female fans

Found in Pininterest.

Stereotypes can be a good way to portray a fictional character in a comic, but they can also be negative in the real life. While stereotyping is a widely used technique in comics and movies to quickly introduce a character so that the audience can quickly grasp his/her personality, reality is that stereotypes in real life can end up with negative effects on a certain community.

There is a hidden stereotype in the Loki Meme above. According to it, when a woman says that she likes the Avengers, she is actually stating that she likes the villain (that’s Loki, hence, Tom Hiddleston). But this is a negative stereotyped vision of fangirls who like Tom Hiddleston portraying Loki. It assumes that girls cannot like the Avengers as men do. It also assumes that Loki’s fangirls are only so because of the celebrity and not because of other reasons like Marvel movies, or the comics. This stereotype is misleading and clearly misogynistic.

Have you ever encountered this test?

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Loki is a Geek and Thor is a Jock

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Time ago I wrote an article arguing that Loki and Thor represented the Geek and the Jock in the movies. Recently Marvel Comics has confirmed that theory in a very direct and visual way. In Loki Agent of Asgard we can see Loki presented with geek traits:

  • He can hack computers easily. This means that he can code.
  • We can see him playing video games while talking with the All-Mother. We can assume that he was playing games when the All-Mother entered the system to talk to him.
  • His earthly fashion resembles that of a geek. Double sleeves is what we usually see in other geeky TV characters, like Sheldon Cooper in the Big Bang Theory. He usually wears double sleeves, a T-shirt, or shirt, what seems to be jeans, socks with stripes or black socks. This is the image of the cool geek.
  • We can spot a shelf plenty of books in his appartment. These can be simple books, computer ones, or even comics. Geeks are highly educated, so it is no surprise to find also books in Loki’s apartment.
  • We can also find a poster of the comics Thor in his apartment. From here we could deduce that he likes to read comics.

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Loki is a Geek and Thor is a Jock

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The other day in our Facebook Page, while commenting one picture, I realized about something very important: that folks in EU were not understanding me when I was stating that Loki represented a Geek and Thor a Jock. Simply put, I forgot that this is a cultural distinction that is found in US and Canada (and I simply acted as if every single soul in Midgard knows it). A member of the Army from UK pointed out that in EU there are only popular kids and not-so-popular kids (well, the shadows). And that Geeks are creatures that live in basements, are terribly pale and probably just program or are obsessed with technology.

Well, let’s take a look to “Thor the Dark World” Feature/issue 85, ScifiNow, page 39.

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Loki represents the Geek and Thor the Jock in the American culture. Loki is pale, has dark hair, is overlooked and has powers that derive from his intellectual superiority. Loki in the first movie is very much like this. Thor, on the other hand, is handsome, blonde, self-aggrandizing, and loved by everyone. Seen like this, Loki is the Geek and Thor is the high school quarterback in Asgard. (ScifiNow, issue 85, p. 39.)

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Why do you think Loki is so *hot*?

Why are so many women and men supporting (or in love) with Loki? What makes him so hot? In this video, we are presented with a very “simple” and “stereotyped” answer on why Loki is so hot. Reality however, is much more complicated than that. (If you are a woman, and have seen this video, odds are that you got enraged by some of the comments. We’ll get to it.)

Loki is a multifaceted character. Multifaceted characters are more prone to have a huge amount of fans and usually earn their privileged status thanks to their complexity. In this case we are in front of a very unusual and yet familiar character.

Loki is very intelligent and complex.

Multifaceted characters are more prone to have more fans than those who are too simple. Loki is a very complex character, with many layers, which echoes what a troubled soul would be. His complexity makes of him a good target for having lots of fans. People who like to discover new aspects of his personality, or fans who would like to know more about his psyche might also like other complex characters in other movies or comics.

He is also very intelligent, so he knows how to find his way out of things. Intelligence, in a world of technology, along with class, is a good point in getting lots of fans. Smart is sexy now.

Loki is the *Geek God of Mischief*

I added the word *geek* because he does represent the *geek* in front of the *jock* (a role played by Thor). In Thor, the first movie, we encounter a doomed Loki, a shadow struggling to get a place into Asgardian society. Asgardian society bases itself more on *strength* than on *intelligence*. We can see that Frigga, Loki’s mother, struggles too in this society. Women are more considered if they take “male roles,” as in the case of Sif. Frigga, expert in magic, has a secondary role. It is Odin who decides what it’s best. But it does seem that he does it more by feelings and brute force, than from logic or intelligence. He rules because he is king, whatever the costs. And this implies to decide, arbitrarily, what will happen on his subjects.

Loki has learnt magic. But magic seems to be *a thing for women*, not a thing for real warriors. He is not as athletic as other Asgardians are, thus he needs to rely on his brains more than his muscles. He is seen as *weak*, more like Frigga is and not as close to the King as he would like to be. Remember that he wants to please his father, the male example of the house, but he is doomed from the beginning. It is not only that he is an adopted child with no real rights to the throne, it is also that he does not fit in the family: he is the weirdo, he seems weak, and he is too smart. No one understands him!

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Geeks, Nerds, Aspies & HFAs.

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We are getting more and more mails and having cool conversations with members of the Army. We have noticed that the numbers of Geeks and Nerds in the Army is high. And, we’ve discovered that we have Aspies and HFAs in it as well! Some Geek & Nerd members however, have discovered that they have an “systematic brain” (due to long conversations with us).

Let’s explore some of the Army Members’ brains together!

Are you a proud Geek or a proud Nerd?? Do you know what Aspergers or HFA is? Both Aspergers and HFA belong to the autism spectrum. Humans have thought, till now, that everyone had the same type of looks towards the world. Now we know, that different brain wiring leads to two different types of brains: the neurotypical and the autistic.

Most part of society has a neurotypical brain. Neurotypicals have an “empathic brain”. It means that they will get emotional, and empathize with other people easily. The autistic brain however is defined as a “systematic brain”. It means that they will look like “emotionless” or “detached” when socializing. (They do resemble Vulcans, or Mr. Data in Star Trek). That they look like “feeling-less” or “aloof” does not mean that they do not have feelings! They show them in a different way, or are more reserved than a neurotypical might be. Take a look to this picture: Continue reading